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Finding the Right Social Media Mix for Market Research

This week we held a webinette: Finding the Right Social Media Mix for Market Research. What’s a webinette you ask? It’s a bite-sized webinar meant to give you some great information on a focused topic in 30 minutes or less.


Ps- Be sure to watch it in full screen mode for the best experience

This week we held a webinette: Finding the Right Social Media Mix for Market Research. What’s a webinette you ask? It’s a bite-sized webinar meant to give you some great information on a focused topic in 30 minutes or less.


Ps- Be sure to watch it in full screen mode for the best experience

In it, Julie Wittes Schlack, SVP of Research and Innovation for Communispace spent 20 minutes helping attendees learn about the differences, best uses and benefits of private insight communities, online panels, social networks and online listening platforms. She also provided a framework for how to decide the right approach based on learning objectives. We had some time at the end for questions.

We had such a great response to the event we thought it would be helpful to post it on our blog; hopefully you’ll find it interesting too.  We’d love to hear your questions and thoughts about it, so please leave comments for us. Also, if you have ideas for topics appropriate for future webinettes, let us know!  We’re excited to hear from you.

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It Takes an iVillage: A conversation with Candice Carpenter Olson on the evolution of community

One of the most iconic symbols of the early days of online community is iVillage – and the company’s founder and former CEO, Candice Carpenter Olson, recently visited us at Communispace. It was fascinating to hear about her original vision for iVillage, her philosophy about how women would connect with each other on the web, and her next big idea in the learning space.

One of the most iconic symbols of the early days of online community is iVillage – and the company’s founder and former CEO, Candice Carpenter Olson, recently visited us at Communispace.  It was fascinating to hear about her original vision for iVillage, her philosophy about how women would connect with each other on the web, and her next big idea in the learning space.

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Marketing is Dead

Well actually it’s not; marketing is more powerful than ever these days, as the latest Old Spice campaign can attest! But, who started this whole viral, user-generated, guerilla, social marketing concept anyways? Lately people have been saying it was the Grateful Dead.

Well actually it’s not; marketing is more powerful than ever these days, as the latest Old Spice campaign can attest! But, who started this whole viral, user-generated, guerilla, social marketing concept anyways? Lately people have been saying it was the Grateful Dead.

Unfortunately, I never became a Deadhead. But, I did admire the stuffed animal Dead Bears during trips to Newbury Comics, with my dad and brother, back in my middle-school days, and even bought a purple-and-green one. Little did I know, I too was part of their strategy. The CEO of HubSpot recently co-authored a book entitled “Marketing Strategies of the Grateful Dead,” which was reviewed in the Boston Globe last week.

They write that the band cultivated a loyal following by giving things away — letting people record their concerts and freely distribute music, going around their promotions department and building their own mailing list, and even letting people buy premium tickets by mail (what, mail? yeah in the “olden days” you had to get tickets right at the box office, so this was pretty cool). They also encouraged “artisans” to “co-opt the band’s fan base by selling compatible, often handmade, products at performances,” says the Globe article, hence my Dead Bear. 

To add to the Dead “buzz,” an article in the March issue of The Atlantic talks about how it was the Dead’s lyricist, John Perry Barlow, who made this connection way back in 1994, in Wired Magazine, saying that “the best way to raise demand for your product is to give it away.”  He went on to say in the Atlantic article “if I give my song away to 20 people, and they give it to 20 people, pretty soon everybody knows me, and my value as a creator is dramatically enhanced.” That’s a pretty good Customer Value Proposition if you ask me!

In terms of connecting with their market and creating loyal customers, the free model worked pretty well for the Dead. But, how is it working today for other companies? Well, consider how we are all marketed to online.  About five minutes ago, I got an email from Virgin America saying that if I buy a plane ticket in the next 24 hours they will donate $5 from my purchase, and for every ticket sale, to an educational cause. Wait, I have to pay? Well, I think it’s pretty popular because I just clicked on the link and I’m still waiting for the page to load. Or, when I followed one of my favorite clothing companies on Twitter and they sent me a 25-percent-off coupon; thanks guys! While I’m not getting “free” stuff, I already know which dress I’m buying with the coupon, so I’d say the strategy is working pretty well!

What do you think? Can companies create brand loyalty by giving things away? Or is the Dead’s strategy just going to Hell in a Bucket?

3 Responses to “Marketing is Dead”

  1. Barry Silverstein says:

    One good contemporary example might be Apple and its free apps. Of course the Apple devices are not cheap, but they build a lot of brand loyalty with the downloadable apps., many of which are free.
    Taking it a step further, Google has done pretty well with free search.
    Couple of current examples where companies build value and loyalty through “free” services to consumers.
    Barry

  2. Jeff Dale says:

    Great post Charlotte! My feeling is that free marketing is a great way to gain visibility and “share of mind”, but often fails at gaining “share of wallet”. A quick example from my experience:

    I manage marketing efforts for two local dance studios. I produce videos of various performances by the dancers and give free DVDs and video links away to students. This added value increases loyalty among customers. It also builds visibility as these students share the videos with their friends and family.

    On the other hand, we tried giving away a free month of dance classes to anyone who refers a new student (an attempt to increase enrollment). We distributed this info on a certificate to over 300 active students, and not one redeemed it!

  3. Aviva says:

    The Dead’s strategy is definitely alive and well today, even in the music industry. Amanda Palmer, a Boston-based solo artist and member of the Dresden Dolls, is notorious for reaching out directly to her fans and being extremely generous with her content – and her fan base is nothing if not loyal.

    Jeff, I think the key to making these promotions do help you grab that share of wallet is looking at your business model and figuring out how you can use free or discounted services to push your high margin, or highest demand, products, while delighting the customer will extras. So for example, concert ticket sales might have been the top priority for the Grateful Dead, and their customers essentially acted like marketing agents for ticket sales.

    Really interesting post, love the blog!

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Would You Want to Know Your Competitor’s Strategy?

A story surfaced today on TechCrunch.com claiming that a Facebook employee boasted the company “has obtained copies of proprietary Google documents outlining their social strategy.” Besides being way uncool to yammer on about at a cocktail party, it poses an interesting question: Would you even want to know your competitors’ plans?

A story surfaced today on TechCrunch.com claiming that a Facebook employee boasted the company “has obtained copies of proprietary Google documents outlining their social strategy.”  Besides being way uncool to yammer on about at a cocktail party, it poses an interesting question: Would you even want to know your competitors’ plans? 

Wouldn’t it limit your thinking – from offense to defense; from what you believe to what your competitors believe?  Chasing competitors who are behind you is a dangerous business.  Might you lose focus on your customers by thinking too much about your competition?

What do you think?  Would you want to know their plans?

2 Responses to “Would You Want to Know Your Competitor’s Strategy?”

  1. Brad Mampe says:

    I read this and immediately thought, “Runners on second still try to steal the catcher’s signals.” That’s not 100% analogous, but it’s a good start. And sports and games serve as a useful analogy in and of themselves: More often than not, the person who acts last often has an advantage, as they get to plan their own strategy based on the actions of their opponent. That’s ignoring any assumptions about the time involved, of course – in football, you wouldn’t elect to kick the ball if you won the coin flip in overtime.

    There is tremendous value in understanding what your opponent is doing. Unlike the sports and games analogy, though, in a business context, you’re not limited to a single opponent, and spending time to evaluate how to best proceed can be costly.

    Consider risk/reward propositions. The risk part is the cost associated with being wrong; the reward part is comprised of the gain associated with being right. The more I understand the hows and whys of what my competitor is doing, the better I can devise an approach that effectively counters it. While I can’t quantify it, I’m guessing these gains more than outweigh the losses of plodding ahead without knowledge of what my competitors do. I’m taking the insider info virtually all the time.

    Of course, all this is assuming that knowledge is absolutely legitimate. If there’s even a small chance of deception, then the choice is much more interesting – but that’s a topic for another blog post.

  2. Rich Weiss says:

    Bill, could not agree with you more. There is a mystique to not knowing that pushes you to wanting to stay ahead. While I’m sure it would be nice to have insight into their plans, I’d much rather have a wild imagination and plan for the worse.

    Also, the pragmatist in me wonders if I were to stumble across this information, is it real or a set up? I say know who you are, what your values are, and build your strategy with that in mind instead of chasing your tail.

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A Renewed Call for Creativity

In their latest issue, AdAge provides a summary of a UK report stating that award-winning advertising has more effective in-market results because it engages the consumer and creates real buzz for the brand.

In their latest issue, AdAge provides a summary of a UK report stating that award-winning advertising has more effective in-market results because it engages the consumer and creates real buzz for the brand.

The argument about advertising creativity is not new, but it has taken on renewed urgency as creative budgets are slashed and making the sale for any brand is tougher than ever due to the global recession.  The advertising and communication business has been focused on survival, cost-reduction and chasing digital expertise.  At the same time, many clients have been focused on short-term earnings, staff reductions and giving procurement more control in the creative process.  If it wasn’t so destructive it would seem comical.

The results haven’t been pretty.  Recycled campaigns from years ago, advertising that focuses on the pure sell vs. engagement and brand-building and agency firings/changes that make your head spin.

On top of this, creative research is stuck in a time warp.  Focus groups, persuasion-driven copy-testing and quantitative studies suck the life out of creative people—and ultimately the creative product itself.

It’s time for the communication business to take a collective breath, and focus on building brands in new and creative ways.

It’s time to find ways to inspire creative people who are uniquely capable of inspiring consumers.

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Old Spice’s “Man Your Man Could Smell Like” Campaign is Fantastic

Old Spice has been getting all sorts of praise for its “Man your man could smell like” advertising campaign. The premise is simple: jacked dude explains to women that if their men used Old Spice, they could smell like him—while all the while he is shirtless doing amazing feats (and riding horses… backwards). It’s cracked me up from the start and is absolutely brilliant in its absurdity. Understandably, the ads were instantly viral.

Old Spice has been getting all sorts of praise for its “Man your man could smell like” advertising campaign. The premise is simple: jacked dude explains to women that if their men used Old Spice, they could smell like him—while all the while he is shirtless doing amazing feats (and riding horses… backwards). It’s cracked me up from the start and is absolutely brilliant in its absurdity. Understandably, the ads were instantly viral.

With their new series of ads though, they’ve taken brand participation to a new level. The Old Spice twitter handle is written in the “voice” of the actor, which is funny and is a great way to make the brand accessible. But tweeting isn’t all—the company is also taking the time to individually respond to “@OldSpice” tweets with commercial-style video responses.

So when Kevin Rose, the founder of Digg.com tweeted “i’m considering buying old spice body wash just so they keep making these epic commercials – http://bit.ly/K87jz” while also complaining about a fever in a later tweet, Old Spice guy responded with this:

Absolutely love it. Now, I may not be a marketing guru, but I do think I know funny. And this, dear readers, is funny. Funny things get passed around and talked about. And that, I’m pretty sure, is marketing gold.

So what do you think: Is this an effective campaign? Do you think that as brands look to engage deeper and deeper with their customers we will be seeing more of this direct participation? Or, even more importantly, does a funny, viral campaign even affect sales? Will Old Spice be able to measure the effectiveness of this campaign?  Let us know what you think in the comments!

5 Responses to “Old Spice’s “Man Your Man Could Smell Like” Campaign is Fantastic”

  1. The thing that makes this advertising campaign so effective is it’s just ludicrously funny, and because no one knows Mustafa’s name (and he’s been signed as “talent” to NBC for a series to be developed), everyone keeps calling him “The Old Spice guy”. Brand, brand, brand.

  2. Lou Tamposi says:

    Steffani–I completely agree. If nothing else, this keeps the Old Spice brand buzzing. Do you think Mustafa is so linked to Old Spice that if and when NBC develops a series around him it will generate even more hype for Old Spice?

  3. Mike P says:

    Hype is 1 thing, but a more interactive and engaging experience with the brand would be to follow up with free “product” or attach coupon codes or other incentives to get people to purchase the product. That is a more integrated campaign, IMO

    Mike Pascucci
    @mikepascucci

  4. Barry Silverstein says:

    I agree it’s a brilliant campaign. It has brought an old, tired brand back to life. It’s not often agency and client teams are able to be bold and use humor in a way that has this much impact. I wonder what if any copy testing research was used or if they just went for it?
    Very cool.

  5. Jack Cahill says:

    I agree with Barry. I remember the first time I saw this ad, I did a double take and thought to myself, “that was Old Spice?!”. Great job of making me start thinking “cool” about a brand I had pretty much forgotten about. And Lou, it cracks me up everytime too. Nice post.

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Listening Lessons

At Communispace, we get asked a lot about lessons learned and best practices for online communities. Since we’ve been doing this for over ten years, we have plenty of experience about what works and what doesn’t. I wrote a blog post for the Harvard Business Review blog network that covers some of the Mistakes to Avoid if you want to be successful with your customer community. Please check it out and let us know…do you agree? What did we miss?

At Communispace, we get asked a lot about lessons learned and best practices for online communities.  Since we’ve been doing this for over ten years, we have plenty of experience about what works and what doesn’t.  I wrote a blog post for the Harvard Business Review blog network that covers some of the Mistakes to Avoid if you want to be successful with your customer community.  Please check it out and let us know…do you agree? What did we miss?

My co-author is Professor Anat Keinan from Harvard Business School. She’s an incredible marketing professor who recently published a case study on Communispace for use in the first-year MBA marketing curriculum.  It’s great that the top business schools are teaching MBAs about “social business” and the power of listening.  For this new generation of business leaders, engaging in conversations with customers online will be second nature.  Interesting, eh?

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  1. Lois Kelly says:

    Debi:
    Great piece. Hearing a lot of interest from marketers about the roles, competencies and activities of highly effective community managers. Would love to hear your views on this.
    Lois

  2. Debi Kleiman says:

    Great to hear from you Lois! I think that community managers need to have a multitude of skills in order to be effective. For the members, they need to be warm hosts in the community, with a sense of how their members would interact in the “real” world and be able to make that come alive and feel authentic online. It’s their job to create an inviting, personal space to get members to participate. Encouraging conversation, building on ideas, making connections, giving members many creative ways to express themselves – all are important.

    For the community stakeholders, the community managers need to be great communicators internally to help align the work of the community to the most important issues at the company. They also need to be “connectors” within the organization, knowing the business goals and priorities of all the different stakeholders of the community and how to make the work of the community relevant to them. The best community managers are also passionate about their business or mission – this makes the whole thing really hum! What else? I could go on and on… maybe I’ll save it for another post. Stay tuned. :)

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Failing Faster

Depending on what data you believe, somewhere between 50-90% of new products fail. Questioning the percentages isn’t nearly as interesting as questioning the whys. And most answers point to a lack of understanding about consumers – e.g., the product’s positioning didn’t resonate (McDonald’s attempt at premium with the Arch Deluxe); the product didn’t serve a clear and compelling consumer need (did consumers need a New Coke, the XFL or a Segway?); the product wasn’t perceived as valuable or differentiated enough (IBM’s PCJr); etc. Ultimately, consumers – businesses or individuals – didn’t buy enough of the product to make the product successful.

Depending on what data you believe, somewhere between 50-90% of new products fail.  Questioning the percentages isn’t nearly as interesting as questioning the whys.  And most answers point to a lack of understanding about consumers – e.g., the product’s positioning didn’t resonate (McDonald’s attempt at premium with the Arch Deluxe); the product didn’t serve a clear and compelling consumer need (did consumers need a New Coke, the XFL or a Segway?); the product wasn’t perceived as valuable or differentiated enough (IBM’s PCJr); etc. Ultimately, consumers – businesses or individuals – didn’t buy enough of the product to make the product successful.

Central to most product or idea failures is the practice of involving consumers too late in the product development cycle.  Consumers typically are brought in downstream of an idea’s development i.e., after the idea has been fleshed out, storyboarded or otherwise already invested in.  To test.  To evaluate.  To validate.  Consumers are put in the awkward position of killing or giving further life to ideas with very little background on, understanding of or context for them. 

In this setting, the possibility of failure comes at the end of a long cycle of time, investment and energy spent.  Perhaps this long cycle is why so many products miss the mark when they come to market instead of failing internally – i.e., so much investment is put against an idea’s prospects for success, making a pre-launch failure harder to accept.

But what if failure didn’t happen at the end of the cycle, but throughout it?  What if failure happened faster? 

In a “fail faster” scenario, consumers would be brought in upstream of an idea’s development to create and refine an idea with a company.  Designers, engineers, creatives, etc., would be working alongside consumers – benefiting from different and diverse perspectives to inform the creative process.  More ideas could be explored because less time would be wasted building out bad ideas. 

Of course, failing faster doesn’t mean just the speed of failure would improve. So too would the rate of success – after all, the ideas would be created with consumers for consumers, thereby increasing the likelihood of their adoption by consumers.

Behind the intuitive value of “failing faster” is a fairly compelling ROI. By failing faster, companies can cut expenses with shortened cycle times and realize the possibilities for increased revenue (i.e., products in market faster + greater likelihood of consumer adoption). 

The changes needed to realize the positive impact of “failing fast” are fairly simple: Involving consumers earlier in the process and keeping them involved throughout.  But until the changes are made, the percentage of new product failures will remain too high…mainly because these failures could be avoided.

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  1. I love the hook, but I am not sure that I would define customer-involved product development as “failing faster”–even if ideas are being rejected along the way. Still, the concept of rapid iterations with a customer-collaborative approach makes a lot of sense. I often work with clients who come to me, as a market researcher, after the product is developed. Clearly, not ideal. Do they still learn a lot from testing their product concepts? Sure. They uncover likely sales objections, sales drivers, ideas for messages that will (or won’t) resonate. But still, earlier customer feedback is always preferred.

    These days, many markets also have the benefit of rapid prototyping, which helps get meaningful early customer feedback. Many more companies could be taking advantage of that approach as well.

    Frankly, I am thrilled when companies make the effort to get customer feedback anywhere in the process, but I totally I agree that earlier is better.

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Data vs. Insight: Make Meaning from What Matters

Thanks to the great folks at Dachis Group for inviting me to guest blog on their Collaboratory. They are doing terrific things for companies interested utilizing social business design to reinvent themselves. Thought maybe Verbatim readers would also enjoy the topic…

There’s too much data. Way too much, and it’s not helpful. There, I said it.

Social media monitoring, web analytics, quantitative market research, trackers, clickthroughs and opens… your ecosystem produces a firehose of data, but not a whole lot of meaning.

Thanks to the great folks at Dachis Group  for inviting me to guest blog on their Collaboratory. They are doing terrific things for companies interested utilizing social business design to reinvent themselves. Thought maybe Verbatim readers would also enjoy the topic…

There’s too much data. Way too much, and it’s not helpful. There, I said it.

Social media monitoring, web analytics, quantitative market research, trackers, clickthroughs and opens… your ecosystem produces a firehose of data, but not a whole lot of meaning.

How about some insight instead? Insight – what we’re really after – can create new businesses, grow existing ones, solve problems, tell stories and deliver real value to your organization. Businesses today are drowning in data and missing real insight. But they don’t have to. The same forces that are converging to bombard us with more data are the same ones that will help us. Customers today want to participate with businesses and brands more than ever before, which creates a real opportunity to use that connection for insight.

It’s great that your customers can give you feedback on products using the ratings and reviews, and being alerted to their dissatisfaction on Twitter is important. But what if I told you that you’re missing the heart of what really matters to your customers? CRM expert Denis Pombriant calls this “CSI approach ” to customer intelligence badly reactionary, and he’s right. How powerful would it be to truly understand your customers in a way that allows you to be relevant to them, right out of the gate?

To read the rest of this post head over to the Dachis Group blog.

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Listen up, Mark Cuban

Mark Cuban, Internet entrepreneur and owner of the Dallas Mavericks as well as a number of other businesses, recently authored a blog post titled, “Why you should NEVER listen to your customers.

While his underlying post makes some interesting points (e.g., “part of every entrepreneur’s job is to invent the future”), the title and overall theme of his editorial sends a harmful message.

Mark Cuban, Internet entrepreneur and owner of the Dallas Mavericks as well as a number of other businesses, recently authored a blog post titled, “Why you should NEVER listen to your customers.” 

While his underlying post makes some interesting points (e.g., “part of every entrepreneur’s job is to invent the future”), the title and overall theme of his editorial sends a harmful message.

In his post he cites an example from a company he works with – “a company that at one point had a product that was not only best in class, but also technically far ahead of its competition.”

His story continues:

“Then it made a fatal mistake.  It asked its customers what features they wanted to see in the product and they delivered on those features. Unfortunately for this company, its competitors didn’t ask customers what they wanted. Instead, they had a vision of ways that business could be done differently and as a result better.  Customers didn’t really see the value or need, until they saw the product.  When they tried it, they loved it.”

I would suggest that the company was asking the wrong questions, the wrong way.  If customers are asked what they want, they are going to respond with what they know.  And what they know is often what you might expect to hear.  As Henry Ford said, “If I asked my customers what they want, they simply would have said a faster horse.”

But what Ford had – and so many successful business leaders have – is an understanding of customers’ needs, motivations and behaviors.  And this understanding comes from listening.  From empathizing.  From looking past what customers explicitly tell you to uncovering a latent need or insight into their lives.  Then solving for it.  It does not come from simply asking what features they’d like.

As Cuban rightly points out, it’s the company’s job to “create the future roadmap for [a] product or service.”  However, doing this without customers – as Cuban suggests to “NEVER listen to your customers” – is a sure path to failure.  Companies will fall into the trap of designing for themselves without seeing the challenge from the point of view of the customer.  Ultimately, it is that customer who will determine the success or failure of an idea or product.

While I don’t know any more about Mr. Cuban’s company or its competitors than what he shared in his post, I do know that never listening to customers is never the right answer.

8 Responses to “Listen up, Mark Cuban”

  1. Jeff says:

    I work for a company that has made it’s mark on the industry by listening to its customers so I was intrigued by Cuban’s post. As I reflected on my own company it came to me that we implement our customer’s wants and needs on a feature/function level but chart our true path independent of their requests.

    Our company believes in the “conversation” above all else and have helped our customers create their own forum for their community conversations; but I was here when we began to chart our current course and customers didn’t get it, didn’t want it, didn’t ask for it. Now they love it.

    I’d be interested to hear your thoughts on whether customer feedback is better served on the less integral feature/function level while staying true to your own vision is best for the overarching strategy of the company.

    Thank you.

  2. Exactly right — this is why ’surveys’ and ‘focus groups’ miss the mark (and give market research a bad name) while those who understand the power of ethnography know that it’s not about literally asking customers “what do you want?” but rather about immersing oneself into the world of the customer in order to understand their perspective on things to know what they truly need. It’s not about asking. It’s about engaging, learning and discovering through a process of empathy and curious observation — and yes, even some listening where appropriate.

    I feel that those who make blanket statements like “don’t ask the customer what they want” but “instead, define the future you see and the sheep will follow” totally miss the point. It’s not an either/or proposition.

  3. Jani Fraga says:

    I find it interesting that Steve Jobs is so against market research to determine the next Apple product (granted it has really worked for him). To quote Mr. Jobs:

    “It’s not about pop culture, and it’s not about fooling people, and it’s not about convincing people that they want something they don’t. We figure out what we want. And I think we’re pretty good at having the right discipline to think through whether a lot of other people are going to want it, too. That’s what we get paid to do. So you can’t go out and ask people, you know, what’s the next big [thing.] There’s a great quote by Henry Ford, right? He said, ‘If I’d have asked my customers what they wanted, they would have told me ‘A faster horse.’’’

    Is consumer feedback an accessory to innovation, or is Steve Jobs just on the luckiest streak in history? He does speak of how the developers at Apple focus on their own specific wants or needs for solutions to their current gripes, and he seems to keep hitting the profit mark with his strategy…food for thought. Thank you for this post!

  4. I don’t think Henry Ford had an understanding of customers’ needs, motivations and behaviors. He was an inventor, not a marketer. He had a vision that changed the world. He invented the future.

    I think Jeff and Mark make good points. There is certainly a line to be drawn in the sand between entrepreneurial vision and instincts and listening to the market. I’d guess that most entrepreneurs are not commissioning large research projects to figure out what kind of company they are going to build. Typically that comes in a eureka moment where the innovator sees a problem and thinks of a new way to solve it. In fact, most successful entrepreneurs face lots of nay-saying from folks (potential customers included) telling them their idea will never work, and yet they find the resolve to carry it through nonetheless. Incidentally, the big companies that behave this way are the ones that continue to innovate.

    Once you are in the market, get some feedback for sure as Jeff mentioned, but never lose your vision or stop trusting your instincts. When you do that, you stop innovating and you stop acting entrepreneurial, which I think is what is at the heart of Mark Cuban’s post and Mark Cuban himself.

  5. Bill Alberti says:

    Jeff, on your question of customer feedback being better served on less integral features or functions, I don’t think it’s fair to assign customer thinking to less important things and keep your vision for more important things. Instead, it may be helpful to think through two different lenses: Feedback and Discovery. If you are looking to refine an idea or product, getting customer Feedback is important – i.e., their reactions to concepts, products and idea. If you are looking to innovate a new approach, you are going to want to broaden the lens with Discovery – i.e., look for unmet/latent needs, competitive white spaces and the like. Strategy is probably better served via Discovery and Tactical execution is probably better served with Feedback. I’m oversimplifying, but hopefully you get the idea.

    Raymond, I agree, it’s not an either/or proposition but a question of how…i.e., how you involve your customers in your business. Are they simply the end market or are they participants in your business? Are you just using them downstream to test and validate or tapping into them throughout an idea’s development cycle. The latter approach will help you develop better ideas. The former will probably kill lots of good ideas.

  6. Diane Hessan says:

    Great conversation. First of all, there is a ton of controversy about whether Apple listens to its customers or not. Many internal Apple people say that they do, but heck, they might not need to with a Genius like Steve Jobs at the top. The problem that some people miss is that visionaries like Steve Jobs come around once every century. If you don’t have him in your organization, it’s pretty difficult to use Apple as your reason for ignoring customers.

    Re entrepreneurial vision, most entrepreneurs I know started their businesses with a quite different idea and plan than what they ended up with — and sometimes, customers make the initial idea much better. Communispace has this story: we started out in a different space and we actually got the idea for what we do from a client. It was a much better idea than my original vision.

    In general, I agree with you, Bill. Most people who say not to listen to customers have a pretty fundamental misunderstanding of all of what market research can do — especially in 2010. Clearly, if your market research department is just testing and validating what they already know, or asking the wrong questions, your customers will be unhelpful.

    This is a TERRIBLE time to lose touch with customers. Look at Sharper Image or Krispy Kreme or even some unnamed auto companies. As customers of those companies, most of us are pretty sure we could have helped.

  7. Thanks for the input Diane. I think you are right on that not every company has a vision (or a visionary) like Apple does, but I am not sure the customer’s perspective brings you that culture of innovation either – which might be why it is so rare. However, maybe you have some examples to the contrary.

    I think the distinction between “launch and learn” versus “learn then launch” could be an important one, meaning the context for which you are receiving the feedback is key. So feedback will help you continuously enhance the value of what you deliver and it can also, in some cases, help you validate a concept (which I think you alluded to in your own Communispace story), but I don’t know how much it helps you “invent the future” – which again I think is the punctum saliens of Cuban’s post.

    So if Henry Ford asked for customer input BEFORE presenting them with the automobile, he might have been lead down a different path. However AFTER inventing the automobile, he could then ask a customer how to improve it.

  8. In so far as inventing the future goes, is the future invented in a vacuum?

    Is the inventor basing his/her vision of how things should be by looking down at their twiddling thumbs?

    It’s not an either/or proposition of “do you ask or don’t you ask”.

    Observing people, observing patterns of behavior, observing emerging trends, observing problem areas that need addressing, being inspired by an unmet need based on an observed phenomenon, all of these take place in the context of real human and societal behavior, not some imaginary world in an inventor’s (or entrepreneur’s head).

    You don’t literally have to ask…but it would be dishonest to proclaim that the genius is he who creates the fantastic from his dark lair — with the help of bloated ego alone. :)

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